The Official Nonsense Thread

[Minty]

(31-01-2017 04:01 AM)simspeaker4 Wrote:  I've never heard of 'Heavenly Creatures', Minty. Is it good?

Heavenly Creatures is the first major film by Peter Jackson & is the reason he got The Lord Of The Rings/The Hobbit films to do.

It's about Anne Perry back in the days when her name was Juliet Hulme. I won't tell you anything else, except to say if it wasn't for the incredible timing of this film & the public reaction to it, her career as an author possibly would have been finished.

(31-01-2017 04:01 AM)simspeaker4 Wrote:  On the literary front I've started reading a book with a pretty polarizing title. It's Owen Jones' 'Chavs; the demonization of the working class'. It has been suggested that there is a difference between Waitrose and Sainsbury. Aren't all supermarkets pretty similar? Is it just the clientele that's different? I understand that Tesco is close to the bottom of the supermarket food chain but I could be wrong.

Waitrose along with Marks & Spencers are regarded as for the middle class. Complete rubbish: it's simply do you want food to fill you up or are you happy to eat less food but it tastes far nicer? If the latter, you go to Marks.

(31-01-2017 04:01 AM)simspeaker4 Wrote:  Meanwhile, I'm reading this book and it kinda sickens me what one finds in the letters to the editor in 'Daily Mail'. It's like the middle class has it in for the working class for some reason. The Sun seems more likely to defend the working class but the Sun isn't supposedly known for quality. They suppored Sky Television in the early days after all as a Murdoch stooge. Please correct me if I am completely off the mark on any or all things.
My cat's reminding me of the importance of eating food.

The Daily Mail is often demonised (rightly) as The Sun for the middle classes, but they were the ones who ensured the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence (killed for being black) was brought to court against the police's wishes.

Whilst Britain's buckled lefties carried out a series of virtue signalling events solving nothing, the Mail on St Valentine's Day 1997 (the day after the whitewash inquest) posted pictures of the five suspects with the headline "Murderers: The Mail accuses these men of killing. If we are wrong, let them sue us." It was an incredible risk for any British newspaper to take - & at first it appeared they were going to be sued for libel, which would have closed the paper & probably saw its editor jailed.

But 15 years later, the two who committed the stabbings were finally jailed for life, thanks mainly due to the Mail being just about the only paper on the Met Police's back during all that time (the rest only cared once it looked they were going to win).

Sky TV & the Sun are both owned by Murdoch.

I'd take 'Chavs' with a pinch of salt. Yes, there's some demonisation of the working classes, but some of it is well deserved. Jarvis Cocker of Pulp grew up in the worst part of Sheffield & has always been scathing of middle class journalists romanticising the working classes as "noble savages". As he put it, where he grew up there was no nobility but plenty of savagery!